Monday, August 24, 2009
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The "Archeology" proved the events of the "TORAH" ,. but it could not give the faith, in the inspiration process, for the unfaithful persons, who assured that these events might be real , and the historical author might be the prophet himself , but it was not, in fact { according to their point of view},a prophetic process ,he has just a writer to a historical book, or perhaps a book of literature , The Archeological discoveries, helped us by giving evidences, to face the old group of people, who criticize the contents ,and produced some false mental evidence ,which have built on some uncompleted historical knowledge. The Critics of the first nineteenth centuries AD ,fell under this group. But from the beginning of the second half, of the twentieth century,a group of Critics who could not deny the historical trusted facts, in concern of the "TORAH", but they have stolen its spiritual effects . Also,some of them, tried to allow with some covered wickedness, that they had some observations, on some of the historical facts ."The School of Leipzig" fell under this later category, "The School of Leipzig" were establishing by ,"The Late Albrecht Alt",but the most popular person,who possesed some attractiveness, was "M.Noth" ,who wrote his book ,"Oberlieferungeschichte des Pentateuch" ,1948 . We will begin by denoting some positives opinion, of his views like :- His idea in concern of the "Deotronomy"that , this book was the base of the books of "Joshua","Judges", "Samuel I,II " and "The Kings I,II" He was brilliant ,when he have discussed the theories of the origins,and the documents . He was the first writer, who suggested that the story of the exodus ,as it was , the center of the theological thinking, in all of the old testament . He was the best Critic ,who dealt with the history of Israelite nation ,but he forgot some of the historical facts. Also his positive historical discussion, to the opinions of "Eeinrich Euald", who was in 1875,which reflected our positive idea about his historical attitude. "Euald" said that the number of twelve, was not a real number for the Israelite tribes, it was just an allegorical number,but "Noth" defending by saying that, the sacred covenant was at its very beginnings ,a common covenant for the twelfths tribes ,after a peaceful religious living , as the stage which happened in the Greek nation's history,That covenant began at the time of the Judges ,according to the written covenant ,of the previous books, specially , the "Deotronomy"..The covenant ensured, the importance of the centric place for worshiping together, according to what have recorded in the "TORAH" . We have, in fact, some observations, about the comparing between the Greek and the Italian unity, and what have real occur to the Israelite nation . His comparison were more real, if he have used it ,to compare between them and the Palestinian unity . But in the case of the Israelite nation ,they were in their original state one nation, related to one grandfather . generally, it was positive to reveal the existence of the twelve tribes ,during the sacred covenant . Also he had a strange opinion, about some kind of the covenants, during the days of "Joshua", he called it the"Amphictigony" ,which "Joshua"made it, to the Israelite, because the Bible taught us ,that the covenant during the days of "Joshua",were the same covenant of "Moses". This "Amphictigony" were to unite the tribes together, to be a united nation, in their political and religious affairs,under the authorities of the Judges, but it was some problems, faced us to agree "Noth"'s opinion, because we have observed, their desire to be under the rule of a king . and follow later . Rev. Joseph
Sunday, August 23, 2009
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The problem which the form criticism have created ,to themselves, was the question .Who wrote the "TORAH" ?,because they denied the "Mosaic Authorship" . One of their followers, his name was "The Late Ivan Engnell",have established "Uppsala School",in order to escape from this difficult question, he suggested an existence of two groups ,during the exile times, he called them the "P" group ,and the "D" group . The "P" group, kept in their memory the first four books :- Genesis,Exodus, Leviticus and Numbers . While the second group ,kept in their memory four other books, they were :- Deuteronomy, Joshua, Judges , Samuel [ first and second] . The eight books were collected, from the total memory ,of those two groups ??? The original source of their memory, was the prophet himself . BUT they did not solve the problem, which the form criticism have created to themselves, he imagined that he solved it ,by suggesting that the source were the prophet himself, but he did not mention, What was the words of the prophet, and what they have added after him ,and how did they all agreed about the differences, and if the two groups were belonging to the grandfathers ,who were students in the school of the prophet, how did the grandfathers of the second group lived, in the times of "Joshua " ,and still alive to the end of the book of "Samuel",at the days of "David",to collect in their memory the contents of the four books . So, he did not solve the problem, but he added some problems, without any logical reasons. The school of " Uppsala" ,were not the only wrong attitude, which faced the "Wellhausen"'s theory, accompanied by the school of the form criticism, and the Scandinavian school , there were other schools, like the school of the" Traditio-Historical " ,or, the historical traditional attitude . The followers of "Edhard Nielson" who have established this school ,wrote his book "Old Tradition",1954 ,which depended upon the study of the Old Hebraic People's psychology, and with the using of the Old Eastern literature , added to that some kind of imaginations ,We can not describe it as a real Scientific thinking, they were as he, who searched what was in the mind of the King "Tut" ,while he was eating his last meal !!! WHY they denied the old writing for the "TORAH" ?? , WHY they tried to think about how the Hebrew people collected the "TORAH" later ??, by the using of their memories !! To answer about this question ,we have one definite answer ,IT was because, they were under the effects of the thoughts ,of "Wellhausen" himself who suggested that, the Hebrew language ,were not a written language ,before the exile ,this false idea led them to some closed roads .What was the archeological discoveries said, after their time ,to answer them, if they were following the themes of "Wellhausen", and attacked him at the same time . The origin of the "Hebrew" language ,which was the "Akadean" language, were still common as a diplomatic language, before the twentieth century ,to the fifteen century BC, as we knew from the letters of "Tell -el-Amarna", the Hebrew language itself,were formed from the twentieth century BC, but we have also some Hebraic writings ,up to the fortieth century BC, in spite of it was not developed, as the other "Holographic" language , "W.J.Martin" recorded that in his book ,"Dead Sea Scroll of Isaiah " p18,at1954 , it was before "Moses"times . The " Texts of Nuzi " and the "Texts of Mary" , proved the validity trust in the contents of the "TORAH" , and let us see later Rev. Joseph
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"H.Gunkel" and "H.Gressmann"established the form criticism,after the failing of the school of "Wellhausen." . "H.Gunkel" compared between the "TORAH" and the other archeological manuscripts of the other cultures at "Moses" times . He suggested that the religious thinking ,among the Israelite nation ,was transmitted to the generation ,with some written books, although it was some knowledges in their memory, their fathers have transmitted it to them, while it belonged to many nations,by the time (as he suggested)they mixed what they have known from their fathers with what it was written in the books,thus ,even their doctrine in God, have been formed through many stages, according to the quantity, which they have accepted from the memory, which added it to the books . Therefore ,"Gunkel" delayed the the doctrine of the inspiration completely , since he thought that the written books were under the will,or the desire of the people ,who were not prophets . it is known to us that the oldest legal laws, during the patriarchal ages, before "Moses "were transmitted across the different generations, through the memory .therefore it was not a strange accident, to find some similarity, between what was in their memories ,and what was inspired by God to 'Moses" . It was some agreement, we do not deny it, but also some big differences . At last it is expected to find some manuscripts like what "Gunkel" have found . "Gunkel" failed in maintaining the form,of the original written source, which he have suggested . To argue with his thoughts ,we must analyse his theory , He puts us before three persons, the First who composed the books,the Second, the people who trust in this writting , the Third were the memories of the people who directed the thoughts of the people, which comes from the memories, and what was added across many ages to the written source[the form] .. To discover that form, we must ask him , Who is the speaker in that form? and, Who were the listeners? and ,Who were the persons who had the right to suggest the correction ,by adding or by omitting ? The logical and the recorded answers for these three questions are:- First the inspiration of God who wrote.by using the prophet .. Second the people of God who listened and obey. Third it was impossibility to find someone, who have authority to correct the thinking of the people, who was not a prophet .while the.prophet, was the first one who wrote ,that's means that there were not three, but two the prophet who wrote by the inspiration ,and the people who listened ,or reads ,and obey ,it was impossibility to find the third imagined group . "Gunkel" could not complete his task,"H.Gressmann"completed it, by publishing a serial books, called "Die Shriften des Alten Testaments ",1911 .In this collection, he have destroyed, the beautifulness of the stories of the "TORAH",also denied the existence of the inspiration, to pave the way for the "Scaninavian Formal School" .BUT "J.Pederson"who was one of this school ,announced that the documentary's theory ,gone forever.,and the "TORAH" was a memorized thoughts, have been written from its first beginning, in its common form,in a later time ."ZAW.XLIX"pp161-181,1931 and thus he added other problems, to the form schools as we shall see followed Rev. Joseph
Saturday, August 22, 2009
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We have learnt before , that some of the scientists, during their attempt to defend against "Wellhausen" , failed as a victim of their self confidence,and became critics , but by using other way for criticism, in order to attack "Wellhausen". Their aims were not to protect the the word of God, but to prove their cleverness, against "Wellhausen" ,so some of them , have created the school of the form criticism, whom we will answer them the next essay ,but now, let us discuss one critic, who had no relation to the form school ,his name was "E.Robertson",he wrote his book "The Old Testament Problems",although he have written some positive ideas in his book ,to attack "Wellhausen"'s methods in thinking, he found himself at last ,in a strange situation , because his thoughts led him ,to find another theory against "Wellhausen's"theory,so, he said that "Samuel" the prophet ,was the composer of the book of "Deuteronomy", in order to revive the legal respect, to the Mosaic laws , and put that book of legal laws, inside the "Ark of the Covenant ", where the priests kept it, until the days of "Josiah",who used it to be the base of his reformation,.The student of "Robertson" completed this suggestion ,.his name was "R.Brinker" who wrote a book called ,"The Influence of Sanctuaries", to suggest that the sanctuary ,with its legal duties , have created in "Samuel" a sacred duty, to reform the states of the people ,who accepted the foolish practices of the priests, before him, by collecting the legal laws of "Moses",to control his position, in the sanctuary,"Robertson" and his follower, found some one , to follow them , his name was"U.Cassuto" who wrote his book "La Questione dela Genesi" . The story of "Samuel" as they have recorded, were just as a short story, imagined by some person,it have not any biblical or historical bases, only their depending on an individual situation , have recorded to "Josiah", who had not any relation to "Samuel" . Therefor, we found "E.Dornseiff", in the big refernce"ZAW.LII-LIII",1934 defended for the the "TORAH"'s authorship, as a whole, because he believed in the unity of the "TORAH",also he wrote his book "Antike und Alter Orient" ,about the normal unity of the "TORAH". Also there was "A.R.Jonson" who warned us from the danger of these thoughts, saying that , the real danger in the Old Testament studies , is in the misconstrue, to that part of the inspired bible,Did the inspiration has a different sources ? Did it divided in its authorship stages , to rewrite it to be suitable to the generation's conceptions ? ,these are a conflicted opinions, which attacks the theory of the inspiration, which our respect to the great value of the "TORAH", depends on its bases . It is clear that the apologetic scientists, found themselves before the face of the critics, and , the scientists with the writers, who walked in a wrong way, to attack the critics , but they succeeded in performing their duty, due to their abilities , this success were based on the Holy Bible ,only, but they used it,and it was sufficient and qualified to win ,at the end. and followed , Rev. Joseph.
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When "Carlstadt "criticized the "TORAH", he assured that the story of the death of "Moses", at the end of the Deuteronomy , was his major proof ,that "Moses" was not its writer ,.he was in fact, effected by the opinions of "Ibn Ezra" ,but when he studied the contents of the "TORAH", he commented on the unity of its style, and its inside evidence in Ex 17.14,24.4-8,34.27,Nu 33.1,2,Deuteronomy 31.9about the writer of the "TORAH", he said that, it was impossible for any person, to speak on behave of "Moses" ,with using the Personal pronoun of "Moses",and produced the books of the "TORAH",which had a unity style , it is clear to us now, that some of those critics ,attacked the "TORAH" before giving a sufficient chance for the deep thinking . But "Wellhausen"had a special privacy, .he observed the history of the Israelite people ,along many ages ,and commented on the times, when they were practicing the polytheism, after the times of "Moses",and their worshiping tn many places, after the "Tabernacle" ,because of that, he suggested that the story of "Moses",and his thoughts and deeds,were composed in a later ages ,after his existence , or , he imagined that the folkloric descriptions, were attached to his personality ,and united with the books of the "TORAH" ,along many stages {we can give him a scientific pardon, if he have shown us some scientific samples ,of the "TORAH", along the ages,but,as we know, he did not have had any sample, or any eye witness, who saw it ,or,any confidential source ,which have described what he have said}. He could not understood that, the people were in Egypt with"Moses", and the paganism were their original sin, which they could not leave it ,at the moment of the exodus ,in spite of the oracles of "Moses",the "TORAH" itself described that disobedience of the people, also, when they entered the promised lands ,they found themselves between the nations, who believed in the paganism ,and the polytheism ,many hundreds of years , the prophet "Solomon" played an important part, in concentrating on the place of the worshiping, but he could not prevent the people, to be loyal to the one God,because the relation between God and his people, ,in fact,is a secret personal relationship ,BUT through these ages of the disobedience, there were some of faithful people, increased ,or decreased ,according to the political ,economical,social,and the real states of the Israelite community. The state of the Israelite people in the past, looked like the states of the people, who belonged to any religion, at any time , the faithfuls always only a percentage amount,less or more the percentage of the unfaithful persons . And if we added that "Wellhausen" himself, referred to the "TORAH" to prove his suggestion , the Scientific base is, To prove your themes ,it must established on the bases of the confidential sources , if the "TORAH" was confidential, then his theory was false,but if it was not, Where is his confidential sources ? Where were these confidential origins ?. Therefor the results or the conclusions of that theory ,did not have any validity, it was unscientific theory . and follow, Rev. Joseph
Thursday, August 20, 2009
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(3)The double recorded stories:- They are as follows, {a}"Wellhausen" said that it was a double recorded story, about the casting out of "Hagar"at Gen 16.4,9.21 .The first refer to "J" but the second to "E" BUT,when we refer to the two stories, we find them Two Different Stories, The first about "Hagar's"escaping by her free will ,when she was pregnant, and ,The second is the story of her casting out by the will of "Sarah"when The Son of "Hagar "was a teen ager. {b}The story of "Beersheba"in Ge21.31,Gen26.31 . "Wellhausen "did not know ,that their were two words in the Hebrew language, both of them consists of three letters, (sheen),(beth),(ain), [SHABA and SHEBA] The first root means satisfaction, but, The second means seven. The three letters "SH,B,A"could not reflect the same root, at Ge 21 "ABRAHAM " named the "WELL"which is the translation of the Hebraic word "beer" of the seven" BEERSHEBA", but the second at Gen 26.31"ISAC" named the "COUNTRY" "beer" which also means "well"or"source"of the" satisfaction" the Hebrew word is "shaba""BEERSHABA" . {c}The story of the denying wife three times Gen 12.10,Gen20.1,Gen26.6 . "Wellhausen "also did not tray to understand that three were different, it was not a single story, recorded three times, The first one occurs by "ABRAM"at "EGYPT" because the "FAMINE" ,but the second one was by"ABRAHAM" [the same person but after many years] at"GERAR" while he was "TRAVELING" far after the accident of "Sodom" ,also, The third were by "ISAC" because of a"FAMINE", "Gerar" and "Abimalech" ,the king of "Gerar ",were "Wellhausen's" bases ,for his suggestion, But now we have found in the Archeology, that the name of "Abimalech",was common at that time ,as a title for the king of "Gerar", it was not the same person ,it was the name which the pharaohs have used, to call the chieftain of the Palestine leaders,.as they called themselves Pharaohs .They were three accidents, every one of them has its circumstances , "Aalders" and "Allis"made a study for these stories, and proved that ,the changing in these stories, ensured the anti Wellhausen's thoughts,because the repeating was common style of the old semitic literature ,and it employed to prove the story ,and to make it easy (see J.Muilenburg,"A Study in Hebrew Rhetoric Repetation and Style in Supplements to the New Testament" 1953),also the book of "J.Pederson" "Israel,I,II,1926", The christian scientists, were not the only persons ,who attacked the "Wellhausen's"assumptions, in concern of the double recorded stories {due to his idea), but some of the critics, also ,defended the repeating , like "B.D.Eordmans" who accepted the theme of the origin "P", he said that all these stories, referred to the same origin "P" not to many origins, although he have suggested other origins for other parts . And followed Rev.Joseph.
Wednesday, August 19, 2009
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(2) The claims of the different literal style :- The modern science have developed the statical measurements, in order to be able to help the scientists ,by giving them , a definite probabilities , to test it ,due to its actually occurrence, in the fact real present order , to reach to many results, in their scientific research . We must observe that, the statical methods, has given us a probabilities, not the results , probabilities to study it, not to find a definite positive or negative conclusion . For example, if you analyse my Message when I was angry, you may conclude that,I have used some expression ,from the vocabulary ,different than the expressions of some other people else, it may reflect my personality,or my literal style,but it also may not reflect it , perhaps I was under the influence ,of some variable expression,which was used by the media ,at the moment of my writing, or perhaps it was a unique accident, that it has been occurred to me, and can not be occurred again ,also perhaps it is my real habitual style , therefor if any other analytical study, found another Message used these expressions, it will reach to a probability ,that may be that,the later Message is mine,because it used my expressions ,or my style of writing . Observe that I said MAY BE ,because the verbal analytical studies , has given us probabilities, not results,but it alert us, to study this probability,in order to find, if it was positive or negative, as it is a just probability only . But what the Critics have done is, to jump over their research's responsibilities, to record the probability ,as if it was a result or conclusion . This kind of scientific methods, is not able to measure and control the human literature, without any limits, but it is only a helper method . What about the Divine literature? Can this kind of the indefinite measure valued it ? "W.J Martin" in his book "Stylistic Criteria"1955,.rejected the way which the critics was using, to deal with the Holy Bible because :- (1)The Holy Bible is not a normal book of literature, to measure it by some indefinite, or definite measures of the human literature . (2)All these measures are variable ,the measures of the modern literature, can not measure the old literature,the eastern literature measures can not measure the western literature.....etc, and follows Rev. Joseph
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In the past essays ,we have declared how some critics, like "Wellhausen", have suggested some different origins for the "TORAH", due to the different names of the Divine personality, between "ELOHEEM' or "YAHOAH". The defense of the scientists depends briefly on the following five points :- (1) Proofs from the Septuagint translation :- We know that the Septuagint, was the oldest Greek translation, for the old testament ,before the birth of Christ ,this translation was adopted by the apostles, and the well educated people, at that time, but we find the two names ,translated as God or The lord ,to reflect the mention of one personality ,according to his function in the accidents . So the Massoretic text ( a Hebrew manuscripts older than the Septuagint itself) also, have the same attitude, "J Skinner" in his book "The Divine Names in Genesis "1914 , have declared this normal differences ,between the two names ,and recorded how the translators have translated "ELOHEEM" which means" God ",to translate it by the word" The Lord " sometimes ,and how they have chosen to translate the word "YAHOAH" which literally means "The lord ",to translate it "God", .he mentioned many examples in concern of this normal types ,of the translations ,to close the door before the faces, of who suggested ,the different sources of the theological background history, of the two names, in the mind and memory of the writer of the "TORAH". (2)In the studies of "R.D.Wilson ,we find how some old books like El Qoraan have recorded many names for God ,which means that the old nations, used to call God with many names (PTR,XVII,1919,pp644 etc.,) (3)The compound name for God, in the old testament ,ensured this fact ,for example "YAHOAH ELOHEEM" as a compound name together (see Genesis 2.4,3.24,Exodus9.30) this compound name, is a great difficulty ,which faces the guesses of "Wellhausen", in concern of his themes ,about the two origins of "ELOHEEM" or "YAHOAH", because it is impossible to remain every part of this compound name, to a different origin . (4)The double names for God, were famous ,and have a commonly used, in the old Egyptian Literatures, and the old Greek Literatures ,which was written during the age of "Moses" (see the book of C.H Gorden,"Christianity Today "1959,. (5)The different theological theory , as a background of the different names, is a false theme , because the different qualities of God ,is a logical result ,as He is An Unlimited One, it is normal to find a name ,for his Divine personality ,due to the different situations,with its private accidents ,which demanded a private function practiced by God,who have been described ,by a special name, due to this situation ,which he have been described.according to what "J.Engnell" have said in his book "Galma Testament I ".1945. and followed Rev. Joseph
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Many of the great scientists ,attacked "Wellhausen's" themes, like "E.W.Hengstenberg" in his book "Dissertations on the Genuineness f the Pentateuch",1847, and "C.F.Keil " with "W.H Green" in his book "The Higher Criticism of the Pentateuch", 1895 ,also "James Orr" in his book "The Problem of The O.T ".1900, when he established his defense upon the weakness of the proofs ,of "Wellhausen" due to its literature and theological values . Many scientists followed his logic, like "R.D.Wilson" in his book "A Scientific Investigation of the O.T ", 1926 and "G.Ch..Aalders",in his book "A Short Introduction to the Pentateuch",1949, also "O.T. Allis" in his book "The Five Book of Moses" 1943, AT last the great man "E.J.Young" ,(we have quoted one of his expressions when he described the purposes of the critics, in the past essays) and his book "Introduction to the Old Testament",1949. All these great men established their defense on attacking the three proofs of "Wellhausen" which was as follows :-(1) The deferent names of God . (2) the different literal style . (3) The double mentioned of some stories. But while these people defended ,another school of criticism have born ,by"H.Gunkel" and "H.Gressmann" it was the school of the form criticism ,which attacked "Wellhausen" but it was at the same time, a new wrong method ,which missed the real facts of the inspiration . At our following essays, we will explain briefly, how all these people helped us ,to analyse and comment on the real facts, counter "Wellhausen"' suggestions . and follows Rev. Joseph
Sunday, August 16, 2009
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We have known from the seventh essay, about the author ,that "H.Hubfeld" and some critics, at the end of the nineteenth century, like "W.Vatke" have adopted the title "P", for a suggested origin, later than the suggested origin "J", which was a reference [due to their opinion ], to some contents ,recorded the name "YAHOAH", like the older origin "J" ,but these new contents [due to their opinion ] ,were used in a later time .. The letter "P" is the first letter of the word "priests" ,so,they suggested that, in a later time the records of the the priests, have played a part in correcting , or adding some data ,to the "TORAH" .What was their profs ? They said that, their were a conflict between the story of the creation, which recorded in the first chapter, of the book of Genesis, and the another story of the third and the fourth chapter, this last story,related to the history of the ancestors, which was recorded in the forth chapter ,but from the beginning of chapter five he referred to the origin of the chapter one again !!!! Their profs were (1) the differences between some accidents recorded in the two stories .!!!but in spit of their description [ Differences ], they could not succeed, to give us one example, to these differences, in concern of any individual fact. (2)the popular style of chapter two, three and four ,was a style which comments on the accidents, [the story of falling after the new story of the creation,and the sentence "and dead "after the brief history of the fathers] . (3)The returning of the title "ELOHEEM" ,which was in the first chapter ,to return in the fifth chapter . But who made this suggested quotation between chapter one and chapter five ? ,are there really any changes? ,or differences between the Two[due to their suggestion] stories?,we have not observed any double recording !!,we observed only the story ,and the comment on the private briefs,which was not mentioned in details, in the past general outline of the story,!! it was the style of one writer ,who spoke about one purpose, which he wanted to make it clear, before the most simple people ,of that age, at the first story he recorded the creation in general, at the second story he spoke about the man as a member in this creation, and his story of his dealing with god ,The man failed for the second time, in the test of dealing with God ,also the category of the ancestors at the end of chapter four ,were not a double category of chapter five , In chapter four was the category of "Cain" but in the fifth chapter was the category of "Seth" . What's urge us to astonish !! is what they have said, in concern of the fifth chapter ,they suggested that its body referred to"J" ,the first suggested origin of the first chapter[due to the name "ELOHEEM"] , but the writer added the word and dead after the brief history of every father, just a brief comment ,from "P" !!! if the same story of "J" was recorded in "P", what was the reason to transmit the story from "J" ,and recorded only " and dead " from "P" did the only reason was the title of God ?? did the writer was less intelligent to observe any differences inside his story ??? did the return of the name "ELOHEEM" when he began to speak about a new work,of the same God of the creation "ELOHEEM" ,during the flood ,is the reason of their suggestion ?? Any develop of the story, from the first chapter to the seventh,but, to the end of the book, had its suitable reasonable changing,due to the changing of the accidents , and the changing of the old ancestors' [ the subject of the story ] ,in their aims, no differences at all . They had not any example of differences ,all what they had is ,the comparison between a general brief story, and some details later for the same story ,without conflict . The style is united together, to reflect a style of an intelligent teacher, who wants to educate his people ,what is sufficient to urge them ,to be loyal to the one God ,who is "ELOHEEM" and his function in concern of his people as "YAHOAH",and again, Where is their "J" ? and Where is their "P" ? The different suggested origins ,are in fact, their different personal respect ,to the scriptures . And follow. Rev.Joseph
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The disagreed group of "J","E" ,misunderstood the message of the "TORAH" ,they dealt with it as a folkloric book, which have reached to them, along many different generations ,belonged to a different ages,and reflected many cultures ,but they failed EVEN in this task also ,because if it had a folkloric contents [due to their assumptions] why they could not study it ,using the idle scientific literal methods, according to what the scientists of the folkloric heritages, do in this kind of literature ? They have stopped only in the limits of titles, without a real study to the function of every title,Also imagined some histories ,about every title ,without having a real evidences between their hands, to make their suggested proofs scientific work, in the folkloric criticism .. If we refer to Exodus 3.11-17,we find the reason of the name "YAHOAH" ,as the personal title for God "ELOHEEM",it would be clear enough,that"YAHOAH" is the title which "ELOHEEM" himself called his being ,as the God of convenient with his people . "YAHOAH" in the Hebrew language, is the most sacred proper name of God , it came from the root "HOH" ,which meant "to exist", He is who exist the existence ,who has this power, is he himself ,who enter to a convenient, with his people ,and because he had that power, his convenient also protected by the power of himself . This accident when God revealed himself , or his personality to "Moses, were before the date of the writing of the "TORAH" ,because it occurred before the prophetic function of "Moses" ,therefore it was normally, when the time comes to write it, by moses to call God "ELLOHEEM" ,as His received name from the ancestors, and remember at the same time his title ,which he himself have received,by God ,especially ,when he wanted to maintain his relationship, between God and the Creation ,or the Existence ,therefore when He created He is "ELOHEEM" ,but when He dealt with the creation He is "YAHOAH", or,"YAHOAH ELOHEEM" . It was not a real reason ,to refer every title to a special origin, IF they have studied what they respected ,as a folklore, using a sincere study . Even when "Moses came to describe what's wrong between him and God ,during the accident of God's revelation to his name as ":YAHOAH",to him, in Exodus 3.15 he ["Moses" ] called God [ who speaks ] "ELOHEEM" and [ God who deals with his people ] "YAHOAH" . The differences between the titles of God, have been accepted normally,and logically ,when we mean by all these titles ,a one God ,due to his unlimited functions, towards the whole universe . And followed Rev. Joseph
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Another example of the differences between the critics ,were the opinions of "Astruc"which compared by the opinions of "Ilgin". "Asruc"said that, the first eleven chapters of the book of Genesis, belonged to the origin"J" !!! BUT,"Ilgin" said that they belonged to the origin "E"!!! To know what is "J" and what is "E" in their conception, we must explain that "J" is the first letter ,of the most sacred name of God "Jehova", "YAHOAH", this name is most sacred that, the Jewish used to read it "ADONAI",which means The Lord ,because they glorify the name of "YAHOAH" ,and have prevented their tongues, to pronounce it ,even to read its vowels, because it is belonges to the most sacred one. But the letter "E" ,is the first letter of the name "ELOHEEM", it is in a plural form ,which used to describe, the person of God as an individual ,as a creator , as a source of the whole universe. If the reason of their guesses, in concern of the origins ,was to find really an origin ,which denoted God as "YAOAH" ,and distinguish it from the origin ,which denoted God as "ELOHEEM". !!!! then WHY "ASTRUC" said that the first eleventh chapter of Genesis ,related to the origin "J" ? the logical ANSWER IS, because he observed that it related to the origin[from his point of view] that proclaiming "YAHOAH" as a truly God, The same question about the opinion of "Ilgin".WHY "ILGEN" said that the same text belonged to the origin "E" ? ,the logical ANSWER ALSO IS because he observed that the same text related to the origin[from his point of view] that proclaiming "ELOHEEM"as a truly God . Their different opinions, logically would comprehended, if we found a discussion, or conflict between the two principals, inside the eleventh chapters, by finding a kind of comparison, between the double attitudes . If it was the fact,then we can give every one of them ,a pardon ,that in his point of view, he saw that the "J" group, or the "E"group, is the real source, and even if it was the fact, we can not respect their thoughts ,as a scientific type of thinking,BUT IT WOULD BE a personal views . IN FACT any reader to the eleventh chapters of the book of Genesis ,does not observe that conflict ,or disagreement ,because every name, were used in its correct place ,to reflect something about God,While "ELOHEEM" reflects God's being as a subject of adoration,"YAHOAH" reflects His function towards His people( for example see Genesis 3.1 in Hebrew ASHERthat ,ASHAH made by YAHOAH the Lord ELOHEEM God " It was really a big problem for them both,Because their purposes were to prove some human origins,and if the text was related to one origin, their purposes would not released. Because this unique source, would comprehended ,and interpreted, to be belong to God,who have inspired his word to "Moses" . There are seventeen chapters in genesis, and in Exodus, emptied from the name of "YAHOAH", in spite of that ,some critics added them to the origin "J" of "YAHOAH". Also there are fifteen chapters ,emptied from the name "ELOHEEM", while some critics added them, to the origin "E" of "ELOHEEM" . It is clear therefore, that their opinions are not a scientific opinions ,it were just personal views of some people ,who had never any trust, or belief in the inspiration in general, and in the Holy Bible as a holy book . and followed Rev. Joseph
Thursday, August 13, 2009
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"H.Hubfeld"'s purpose was to divide the "TORAH" into pieces,what we have possessed as a heritage of our ancestors, he did not accepted it, I mean that, he wanted the division as a purpose, in itself,in spite of he denied that ,he said about himself, that did not divide a records of a story, which was united together, but the "TORAH"[ due to his accuses] has a many kinds of stories,with different styles of recording, some of it has a statistical type, but the others has a folkloric type, therefore the statistical was from the origin "E1", but the folkloric was from the origin "E2" !!!! Our study to the historian books, who wrote the events as an eye witness, shows us ,that it contains of numbers and dates,but it is also consists of events and social reactions, no one can say that, that eye wittiness has two origins, to compose his history . I agreed with "E.T Yong"that those people have dealt with the "Holy Bible" ,worst than what any critic deals, with any other book of literature. Who read the book of "w.F.Albright" "History of Archeological and Christian Humanism",will find that there are many Archeological researches, about the traditions and the habits ,of the people, who were the habitants of this area, in the old times, which agreed typically, with what the "TORAH" has recorded,the archeologists proved that, the archeological investigations ,are like a mirror which reflected the facts of the events ,which was recorded in the "TORAH",. Yes, that is because, it is the mirror of God, which reflects the truth,the divine truth Until a recent time ,the scientists of the language, were similar to what "wellhausen" has said ,that the "Hebrew" language were not known as a writing language, before a recent time, after the exile,If it was true we have the faith that, the older system of recording their news ,were kept by God ,to handle it to us because it is his word, BUT thanks to God,The archeological discoveries showed us, some Hebrew writings, near the time of the patriarchal ages, before "Moses", but before"Levi" ,and before "Jacob "or his father "Isac".. In spite of the changes, which have occurs in the languages of the eastern people, around the "Hebrews" ,the "Hebrew" language have not changed, not in its grammar nor in letters. The 350 letters of Tel el Amarna, in Egypt, testified that this is the truth ,There were some letters, which have been written by the Pharaoh's workers in Palestine, to the Pharaoh, to till him some news ,or problems,during the EIGHTEENTH dynasty at the sixteenth century BC some of these letters were written by "Hebrew" ,it was discovered by a peasant woman ,and now they are kept in the "Berlin Museum" . And if we refer to the book of "Gressman" at 1700 we will find that there were also, some "Hebrew" writings during the "Hyksus" period, which were during the patriarchal ages.(see" A Horientalisch Bilder Zum Alten Testament"CCLIX,1926 and follow Rev. Joseph
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The Biblical,Archeological,Literal,[ in concern of the old languages studies ],with the historical accompanied events,which accompanied the facts of the "Holy Bible", specially[due to our present research] which was at the times of the "TORAH" ,these sciences provided us with some comments ,on the theories of the critics. We observed from our studies to the accuses,the claims,and the suggested theories of the critics ,about the "TORAH" , that there were many differences between there opinions, both their assumptions and their results or conclusions ,which I called it suggestions . In the real scientific methods and bases ,we recognized how the new theory corrects or removes the old theories conclusions ,or results ,or canons, IF the subject of the new one, was the same subject of the old theory, BECAUSE OF some modern data OR some faults during practicing the theory ,as a result of another elements, which were not in the mind of the old scientist, but it was not the matter in concern of the "TORAH" . For example:- if you ask in the dark ages of the critics,or during ,or after the renaissance ,if you chose any year and ask about, What was the numbers of the suggested origins of the "TORAH" . You will find then many opinions, Are they one,two ,three, four, twelve,seventeen,or more some one said they were fourteen ???? were they E1 or E2 or P or J or D or all of them together???? Did they were in "Moses" times,or after his life directly, or at the time of the kings ,or during the exile ,or after it??You will find at every time ,some different answers,Therefore their deferent results, proves that all of their assumptions ,were wrong ,added to that two important observation, THE FIRST is:-no one of them succeeded in putting before us, an example for a real old document,contained his suggested assumptions ,or even some of it . THE SECOND observation is :- No one of them, could maintain the religious beliefs ,of the nation as a whole, before his suggested date for the writing,or adding, No one of them, gave us a proof ,or description ,which we can depend upon it, as a precise proof ,or description for the people's belief ,before his genius suggestion . To explain my thought let us take for example the time of "H.Hubfeld"1853 who said that the "TORAH" comes from three origins "J","E1","E2", added to them "D",the oldest origin was "E1" ,At his time was "K.H.Graf" who said the" P "was the oldest ,At their time "H.Ewald" said that E was one combined origin. But if ask, Where is "E" ? Have you an old book contained "E" only ?or contained "P" only ?or" D" only?? You will find no answer!!!! . So, before they added "D", or" P" or "E "What was the believes of the all the people ?, Do not please, give me a verse,which describes someone , or an ignorant person ,or some group of the people, or even one of the great persons, because you then ,will fall in a dangerous scientific mistake, because your sample, is not a scientific sample, it makes your results shows a wrong conclusion, established on a wrong reasons and followed Rev. Joseph
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